Prior to knowing what is the number of grafts I would do, I would have to know 1) what is your donor density and the health of your donor area by trichoscopy, 2) what is your hair thickness of hairs in the donor area (fine, medium or coarse measures 30, 50, 70+ microns in thickness respectively). The thicker the hair, the less the grafts needed. Your hair loss pattern is unusual, but that entire central area runs the risk of loss unless you take some drug like finasteride to hold on to that hair. Before you jump into a hair transplant, I hope you share you age with me.
Is it normal for baby hairs to not have color? Been on min for about 2 months. Just started fin. Decided to buzz my hair while it thickens up and noticed all these new hairs.
You are looking at Vellus hairs that probably will not turn into scalp hairs with color. The normal groupings of ‘terminal’ scalp hairs, all of these little vellus hairs in varying numbers, grow in the groupings. I don’t believe that these ever grow into terminal scalp hairs. They are always colorless.
OK so I’ve done some researching and found articles stating that hair training aka infrequent washing can lead to hairloss or accelerate it. I believe it’s because of buildup of sebum on the scalp? I’m not too sure on how that works. This scares me because I hardly shampoo, mainly using conditioner to wash or just water to clean my hair but I at least try to shampoo once or twice a month. My hair when I shampoo feels very poopy and looks very unhealthy compared to when I don’t shampoo. But if it accelerates hairloss like some articles claim I’ll be more then glad to start shampooing more.
Many of my patients tell me that they see homeless men with full heads of hair who probably never wash or shampoo. That is true, so shampooing is not necessary. When vigorously performed, frequent shampooing may pull out the miniaturized hairs that are about to fall out. Aggressive brushing after shampooing will pull out miniaturized hairs relatively easily.
From my practice perspective, it runs about 2-4% consistent with what Merck reported; however, on Forums like Reddit, where many young men talk up side effects, it is far more common. I believe that this shows that men can easily talk themselves into the sexual side effects. I often, when joking, tell my young patients before they start finasteride, that if I told them “by breathing the hair in my office, you won’t get an erection tonight“, they smile but get the message of just how powerful such messages are.
I started topical Finasteride 5 months ago (fin/min 0.15%/7%), and after 5 weeks I started to shed HEAVILY so it’s been almost 4 months of continuous shed. I don’t know what to do. I have been applying Minoxidil for almost 10 years and the initial shed was never as bad as this. Most of the sheds last 1 or 2 months I’m reading. I don’t know if I will be losing everything, or if i should try a higher topical dose (I also tried 0.25% topical before for 3 months), oral fin and then at what dose?
Topical finasteride goes systemic, but the amount is not in your control. If you use the oral, then you have better control. The hair loss response to the finasteride tells you that it is working, so be patient.
Im 20 and I been balding since I was 16, I’m on fin and min but I know eventually I will lose it all so I was thinking I’ll probably need more than one transplant in the future. But I was wondering, is it possible to cover your whole scalp with implants assuming I go completely bald in a few years?
I expect that my answer to your question is purely academic. Before you take the hair transplant route, you must qualify with regard to Age (at least 25 years old) and have good health of your scalp and donor area. I expect that you will have male pattern balding. With a healthy donor area, I am assuming that you are an average man with a donor density of 2.2 hairs/mm/square. Based on your question asking ‘What is the maximum amount of hair that can be transplanted?’, I would assume (academically) that your balding would eventually become a Class 7 pattern of balding.
As described above, the donor area in such a person has about 7000-9000 grafts that can be transplanted. That is enough to get good coverage for the most advanced balding pattern. Please consider adding Scalp Micropigmentation to the treatment plan to maximize the fullness. I have followed one patient for over 20 years as he evolved into a Class 7 pattern of balding. He had many surgeries as his balding evolved. This man was very detail-oriented and had to maintain his hairy appearance throughout the balding process without any evidence that he had a hair transplant. He started these surgeries before FUE or SMP was available and was fortunate that his donor supply was higher than an average man’s donor supply. We finished his entire treatment using FUE and SMP to fine-tune his final result. You can see his final result after receiving 11,000 grafts and SMP here: https://baldingblog.com/norwood-class-7-pattern-patient-received-11000-grafts-plus-smp/
I believe that men who use the Dr. Pen device with 36 needles and a depth of 1.25mm have the best chance to reverse their hair loss. The idea is to control the damage to the area where the stem cells reside that may trigger hair growth. I advise my patients to hold this reciprocating pen in a single spot for 10 seconds, then move it to the next spot where they want the hair to grow. Let’s say that you have an area of 2 by 3 inches; that means that the pen is held in many positions until the entire targeted area has been covered by the pen. This injury starts off a healing cascade with some bleeding, platelet aggregation, and the appearance of special defense cells called macrophages. Special proteins that stimulate new blood vessel formation pour into the wound and are followed by stem cell activation, which often triggers hair follicle growth. When this process is repeated weekly with a Dr. Pen device, I believe you get the best control of the healing cascade.
I’m 30M and considering getting a transplant. My case is a little unique though. My hair is actually very thick and curly. My hair loss is at the entire crown of my head and it’s due to physical trauma of the hair root from decades of pulling the hair out due to a disorder called trichotillomania rather than “natural” male-pattern baldness. So basically all the hair on the crown is very, very thin, in stark contrast with the rest of my hair. I’m very happy to be in remission from the disorder.
I’ve always wanted long hair, but my worry is whether the transplanted hair will still have a very noticible thickness/texture difference than the rest of my hair. At the consult I was told that once the hair is transplanted, it won’t grow back “as thick” as the rest of it, but they still think it will look fine.
Trichotillomania might return when you are stressed, putting you back in the same situation you are now. The transplanted hair will always look like your donor hair, sometimes a little wavier. Discuss medications you might take after the transplant to be assured that the condition does not return. A few of my favorite patients with this disease have ended up returning with the same balding that they had before I transplanted them.
Me: I am a 24 year old diffuse thinner. I started balding at 22. I still have hair on my head but it’s thin and just looks very patchy if the wind blows it away. My problem: How do y’all deal with your hair loss? From 18-22 I was a very energetic, very confident person, I always talked to girls and had no fear of social interactions. Nowadays my confidence is gone and I just don’t enjoy social gatherings and life itself like I used to. Hair loss really controls my energy and my happiness, I wish I could have had my full head of hair at least till I’m 30… I am looking in every mirror I pass by, I have countless of hair pictures in my gallery it really drains my energy to the point where I am just always exhausted. My regime: I am on minoxidil for exactly a year right now with no results (derma rolling 1x a week with a derma pen m8 since march) I also take fin 1mg every second day since march. I scalp massage and use keto shampoo every other day as well. There is no change at all…
I feel for you. Over the past 33 years in practice, I have heard similar comments. What is interesting to me is that the celebrities and top business people I transplanted were able to put aside their feelings, like yours, and focus on their lives. I understand how hair loss preoccupies too much of our activities to stop us from going where we need to go. Get a great doctor to evaluate you for a hair transplant if you have tried all of the regular medications and treatments to date. Are you sure that you are doing everything needed to grow back your hair short of a hair transplant? If so, explore the transplant solution with good research.
I am excited to see what it will look like at 6 months
If you read my 6/21/24 post, I discussed the number of grafts and its relationships with the size of the recipient area. Most average Caucasian men have about 7000-8000 grafts (plus or minus 20%) to take from the donor area for their lifetime. Asians and Africans have significantly less donor hair. Are you old enough to know your final balding pattern (over 26, at the least)? 4100 grafts should be more than enough to return your normal donor density to the area you transplanted. What worries me is that if you become significantly bald in your late 20s or early 30s, you will need more hair to take from the donor area. You might be unable to supply a balding Class 6 or 7 pattern, possibly resorting to beard hair if that happens. I believe that every person having a hair transplant needs a personalized Master Plan that considers their worst-case projected hair loss pattern, the value of their hair (fine, medium, or coarse), and the quantity of hair that can be harvested from the donor area (that is a number that is easily measured and calculated). With that plan in place, there are never surprises. If your surgical team did their job correctly, as I see it looks good, you would have more than enough hair for the balding you presented with.
Old Drug Now Called a “Magic Pill”, because it regrows hair and improves heart health (earth.com). The article suggests that Finasteride could lower cholesterol levels and reduce the risk of heart disease. Dr. Jaume Amengual, Assistant Professor at the University of Illinois, said, “men in a survey had a Cholesterol level 30 points lower than those not taking the drug”. This data came from the National Health and Nutrition Survey conducted between 2009 – 2016 on thousands of men over 50, but the sample of men in the actual study was small where the Cholesterol was analyzed. The study was taken to the laboratory, and mice prone to atherosclerosis and fed on a high-fat, high-cholesterol diet showed lower serum cholesterol levels and decreased inflammatory markers in the liver. The study suggested that with the high dose of finasteride given to the mice, there was less atherosclerosis in the coronary arteries and fewer inflammatory markers in the liver.
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